Jesus miracle beam ray machine
Kids, you're looking at the device that will put an end to all the diseases in the world!
On the outside, it doesn't look too impressive. It's an ugly metal box with a screen plus a few buttons and knobs. It comes with a standard PC keyboard--well, standard except that there is only one big Delete key where separate Insert and Delete keys should be. And, interestingly, it saves data on a 3 1/2-inch diskette. Wow, really? People actually still use those? I haven't seen of one of those fossils for years.
But beneath the ordinary-looking shell lies extraordinary healing powers that no machine in history has even possessed. So what is this amazing contraption? As the pastor who showed me the device earlier today explained, it is a Rife beam ray machine.
Huh? What is a beam ray machine? The beam ray machine was derived from the works of mad scientist Royal Raymond Rife in the 1930s. Yes, the 1930s. The basic concept is that each type of disease-causing microbes oscillates at a specific frequency. By blasting those microbes with a sound wave of the proper frequency, we can make them explode the same way that the voice of Mariah Carey shatters glass. Bacteria ka-boom = disease cured. Yay! Makes sense? Yay!
OK, that's wonderful, but how do I know what frequency to use? Don't worry, my friend. The beam ray machine comes with a neat manual (see picture) containing the names of every disease that you can think of and the corresponding frequencies. By fiddling with the settings, you can use this machine to cure anything from migraine to cancer to AIDS! Just input the correct number and press Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start!
Seriously, all this is starting to sound like a gigantic load of bullshit. Do you have any scientific proof? Peer reviews? Controlled clinical trials? Anything? Well, not really. But that's only because the technology has been suppressed for decades by evil pharmaceutical companies that control the FDA and the whole medical industry! The dog ate my homework Their goons burned down Mr. Rife's lab and destroyed all his notes containing the detailed results of his experiments! In fact, Mr. Rife was so devastated that he become an alcoholic and died of a drug overdose. Poor Mr. Rife! Pharmaceutical companies don't want you to have this miracle cure. They want to keep you sick so that you'll keep buying their drugs!
Wait a minute... if the beam ray machine can cure anything, why didn't Mr. Rife use it to treat his own alcoholism? .... Never mind, don't answer that.
I asked the pastor if he has had personal success with the device. He enthusiastically told me story after story of sick people getting better after he treated them with magic beam rays. Cool. I then asked if he had encountered instances where the device didn't work. After a bit of awkward silence, he admitted that yeah, it doesn't always work. Hmm....
Most sane rational people would see the whole thing, from the concept to the execution, for what it is--a laughable scam. So you would think that the good pastor who swears by the magical device is a total idiot. But the sad thing is that he's actually a well-educated guy... brilliant public speaker... definitely above average IQ.
It must be true that there's a sucker born every minute. Of course, it's hard to judge them. With enough effort, anyone can be deceived. This interesting podcast mentioned on Carnifex's blog illustrates how human perception can be easily manipulated. It's true... we humans are stupid stupid animals.
But to be fooled by the claim that a beeping and buzzing metal box can cure all diseases? Come on! Unfortunately, religious people, even the smarter ones, seem to be particularly susceptible to this kind of pseudoscience. Oh well, I guess that should come as no surprise. Think about it. If you can believe in a magical son of god who can heal the sick and perform miracles, it's probably not too much of a stretch to believe that a magical god machine can do the same, right? Right?
Anyway, to end this rant on a positive note... hey, good news for all you Catholics. You really don't have to use condoms! If you do catch nasty STDs, just come before the Jesus miracle beam ray machine and confess your sins, and you shall be healed.
Yay!
Yay!
My blog has been referenced! I want to thank my producer, my crew, my cat, Blog.com, my dad for he didn't know what a condom is and my mom for not educating him, what a condom is!
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Hehehe
Wouldn't it be nice if an Oscar winner gives the condom speech instead of the usual boring drivel....
i
sure hope the pastor is not thinkin on the lines of resonance, becuz if u used the same frequency u might double the bacteria, like the resonance effect.... the only way to cancel the virus is to use the opposite frequency!! gullible... ahem i mean GOOD ppl of the world !!
Did you sleep through your physics class? :-P
To shatter a piece of glass with sound, you need find its resonant frequency, then use a high-amplitude sound wave with the same frequency, not the "opposite frequency" (no such thing).
A sound wave at an object's resonant frequency will cause it to vibrate and, if the amplitude is high enough, break. The key here is amplitude, which is one of the reasons why the beam ray machine can't possibly work. Even assuming that the provided list of bacterial resonant frequencies is accurate (which is highly questionable), there's no way that the soft dull buzzes from the boombox pack enough energy to make all the bacteria go ka-boom.
AND if they do go ka-boom,
you can't guarantee that this supermagical device won't blow up your own cells. Yay, the best thing ever would be to cure a cold with this wonder of technology and blow up your fucking brain all over the place because you mistyped the frequency, hehehe :)
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That's right
The beam ray people seem to ignore the fact that we humans are composed of cells, many of which aren't really that different structurally from bacteria. If a "beam" is strong enough to kill bacteria, it will also be strong enough to at least severely damage the human cells around it. Oops.
i know wat u mean
u mean its natural frequency, resonance is caused by bombarding something with its natural frequency, causing two waves to overlap therefore amplifying the effect. wen i say opposite frequency, i meant wave with wavelength difference of 180 degrees, so the two waves can cancel each other out. =)
It doesn't
exactly work that way, but it's OK... this isn't a physics site anyway, hehe.
Uh....
Last time I checked it was called opposite phase, and opposite phase does not cancel a resonance effect - because resonance is not about adding two vibrations only ;)
* looks at the "who let the wise guy in" stares of other site members and runs away *
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Hey!
No physics on this site! Hehehe.
beam ray
hi everyone, does anyone know where i can get one of those machines?
If you live in the Philippines,
I can tell you where to get one. If not, you're on your own.
But why would you want one anyway? It's a scam.
Isn't it obvious?
To fool various idiots to pay him money to be cured by the miracle machine, JC. It's called a business plan!
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Hmm
I like the concept of this "business" thing you're talking about.
Screw you
This blog reminded me about the old good days I posted stuff too, so I had to update my blog. I hate you.
It's a good business model though.
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Beam Ray
Google it, Moron and before you shoot you mouth off about something you don't understand...research it fully. Its not hard to find out where to get a hold of a Beam Ray. Internet tells all.However if your not sure how to Navigate try calling 205-680-4144 to get your dealer nearest you. or stop by:
Beam Ray LLC
300 88th Street South
Birmingham, AL 35206
Fax 205-680-2308
Ps Lynn Kenny, Google him also
You should do your own research too
The scientific method and controlled clinical trials--Google those.
Not quite the whole truth
I think the science behind it is probably sound, but I'd also like to see some long-term, peer-reviewed case studies before making a final judgment. I did some more digging and found some things out you omitted.
For example, the soft, dull buzzes produced by the machine aren't really what does the healing -- far more important is the very large light generator that bathes the patient in light at varying frequencies throughout a given program. Anyone who has ever gotten a sunburn through a shirt or felt that their house is warmer on a sunny day than their thermostat reads surely knows that light can penetrate all kinds of materials, your body included, for good or ill.
The same bundles of energy (EM waves or photons) that can kill your skin cells (sunburn) at different frequencies can kill other kinds of cells like bacteria and virii. Like the soprano and the glass, you do need both the right frequency and enough force. Like all EM transmissions, they fade over distance, but are strongest next to the source (e.g., why our play is 93 million miles from the sun... Any closer and we'd be crispy critters).
Just like you don't need a massive megawatt laser to blind yourself (a $0.99 drugstore laser pointer with a 1v battery will do just fine if you spend enough time staring at it), you probably don't need (or wouldn't want) any more exposure than the thing already puts out. After all, if it really does work, you don't want to give your body's own immune system too much viro/bacteriocellular detritus to have to cleanup at a go. Best to tackle it bit by bit.
Actually,
I don't think the science behind beam ray is sound at all.
I thank you for making the effort to explain it, but I'm troubled by the amount of unscientific analogy and the lack of scientific analysis and actual results.
This is very funny - except
This is very funny - except for the fact that my mother-in-law is dying of cancer and sold her piano to buy one of these things for $7,000!!!!!
I'm sorry to hear that
Quacks and charlatans often take advantage of desperate people. They're shameless.
beam ray
Yes, I would like to know where to get one.
Beam Ray
Don't be too quick to discount this...until you have tried it yourself. I, too, was sceptical at first. However,now-at the first sign of illness, I visit my chiropractors office (where they have a Beam Ray)...and by the next day-all signs off illness are gone. I even bring in my children. Same results. I'm not paying for these sessions-the Chiro.charges nothing. Seriously, I've experimented with this...when I don't go "under the light" at the first sign of a cold...it will linger for, at least, a week. I am a teacher of children ages 2 1/2 to 6 years old. You can imagine the germs! True, it may not work for EVERYONE...but it does for me and my family.
Well, I'm glad it works for you
But nothing in your experience suggests that beam ray is more effective than a placebo.
Rife
Rife was a selfless man who invented a machine that really does cure many diseases. You do have to know how to use it, and yes it does work.
The premise of this chicken website would claim that typewriters are no good because monkeys can't type Shakespeare!
A Rife machine was never meant to cure personality issues or mental illness. It was meant to destroy diseased cells, bacteria and parasites. It is very effective at that. Just like flying an airplane, you do have know a little about what you are doing.
Um, right
We should believe that Rife machines work because Anonymous Chicken said so--no need for evidence at all.
Well...
Rife does sound like life... of course its a letter away from Rifle, which you'd be virtually pointing at your head when you choose this over evidence-based medicine.
On a more serious note, even assuming that such a device doesn't work at all, it can still harm you by keeping your from proper treatment and wasting your resources. Case in point is a neighbor of mine who eventually had to have her toes amputated because she thought this stupid beam ray could cure the infection that was ravaging her poor diabetic feet. Not only did she had to have the amputation, by the time they decided to do it, she was a wreck. Too weak to even sit up, her legs badly atrophied and her blood pressure dangerously low.
Rife was a genius!
Your neighbor is stupid because she didn't know the right way to operate the miracle machine. If you know the right way, it works!
Too bad
Rife lost his life or we'd be good huh?
Dude,
you've got to let the Rife-life rhyme thing go. It's making me cringe :-P
You Don't Know Jack! Educate yourself...
The Beam Ray device, April 27, 2002
By A Customer who bought the book and machine.
I bought this video, along with Bare's book about how to build a beam ray device, supposedly like Rife's original device from the 30's. I was skeptical but actually ended up building the device. The first part of the video is fascinating. You are looking through a dark field microscope (which I wouldn't know from a telescope) at various micro-organisms being affected by the beam ray device. Mr. Bare gives a running commentary while the micro-organism are destroyed, each in a matter of minutes on your TV screen. If you are like me, it will be a really eerie experience to watch this "death to microbes" demonstration. My thoughts were along the lines of "If this thing was invented in the 30's and it can really do what I'm seeing on the screen, what happened? The most revolutionary medical device of the century, invented 70 years ago and I've never heard of it?"
I would suggest reading the book, "The Cancer Cure That Worked" by Barry Lynnes, before you watch the video, so that you have some idea of the background.
Briefly, a scientist named Royal Rife invented a microscope in the 20's that allowed him to see the world of the very small with magnification up to 8000X. A normal light microscope only goes to 1500X, allowing one to see bacteria, but nothing smaller. Rife's microscope allowed him to see viruses and a whole world while it was alive, unknown before that time and since. The modern electron microscope kills everything that it looks at, thus obviating much of the micro biological observations. With the microscope, Rife claimed to discover the virus that causes cancer. This lead him to his beam ray device, which was tested by him and 20 other doctors, under the auspices of USC, in 1934. Supposedly it was 100% effective at curing cancer, and was hailed across the country as the medical breakthrough of the 20th century, with doctors from the Mayo clinic, Northwestern University, and Stanford getting on the band wagon. Many years of lawsuits followed between the AMA and Rife's company ending with him a broken man and the microscope and beam ray device fading into obscurity. It's a great story.
When you watch these microbes being destroyed, you'll get the idea that this thing may actually work. If you have any vision at all, your skin will tingle. Mine sure did, and resulted in me building the device as Bare lays out in the second half of the video and in his book. The construction is well described and shown, but it is not an easy project for the unskilled. I am an electronics engineer, so it was easy for me. The devices can be bought completely assembled now, unlike 6 years ago when the video came out.
And read the testimonials here...
http://www.ultimatewellness.com.au/products.html12
Do you realize
how gullible you sound? Well, of course not.
"The magic microscope totally works because I saw a video! Lightsabers are totally real because I saw them in movies!"
Give me a break.
I can't be arsed to point out all of the stupidities.
However, I can mention some. Light microscopes can only go so far not because of limitations of our technologies, but because there is a hard physical limit on the size of things you can observe in a given wavelength and the only thing that could let you observe things at x8000 magnification is increasing the used wavelength well into ultraviolet and xray, which would simply irradiate most of the critters. Also, I doubt very much that the mister you claim to have seen stuff at that magnification could possibly see ultraviolet and xray.
It is well known that there is NO one reason to cancer. A cancer is an anomalous growth of cells that is caused by various mutations to their genetic code. Most of the times a cell that has it gene code deviate too much would die or be destroyed by the organism, however, in the case of cancer, the cells not only survive, they start to multiply like rabbits. What EXACTLY causes these mutations is totally case-by-case matter, it might be various virii, it might be radiation, it might be poisonous chemicals, it might be sun light, it might be a lot of things.
I won't go on debunking the rest of your tirade, but I really think that despite your education in electric engineering, which, by the way, doesn't give you any cred apart from talking about the internal circuitry of electric devices, so I don't think you should use it in online discussions, you should really refamiliarize yourself with some basic notions of optics, biology, medicine (esp. pathology) and wave mechanics. Until that time, I bid you adieu.
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My dead blog is dead since I hate blogging and I lead the most boring life ever.
Heh
I'm sure he's convinced now... not.
It is sad that the hope and kindness in the world has died.
I am not here to try to state that I am or am not a believer in the beam ray machine. I just want to share a story. A friend that I work with has a son that is dieing of cancer. He has had treatment at Hershey Medical Center, for the past four years. They were suppose to have got it all a year ago, and he was cancer free. What a joy and relieve to him and his family that was. Now, Two weeks ago, the young man developed a headache. He had a couple of tests, and then back to Hershey. The cancer is back, and this time it is on the brain. They operated on last fri, and got most of it and ran tests to find out what kind it was. Well, yesterday they found out that it is the aggressive kind and he is going to die. He came home today, with a drain tube in his head and a death sentence. There is nothing that the great medical field can do for him. This kinda makes me wonder, after sooooo many years of study and drug after drug. There is still no cure for cancer. We are evolving in leaps and bounds in the technology of about everything but curing illness. Is it a form of population control? One has to wonder. Back to the topic at hand. I today (for some reason unknown to me), heard of this machine. I called my friend and told him that a gentleman told me of this radio machine that cures cancer. At the begining of the day, I would have never thought that I would be deleivering such news. I kinda felt akward in calling him, but the happening seemed to be to perfect. I just happened to bring the story of his son, up in front of a person that is taking treatment from a Beam Ray machine. The odds of that are really slim. I just know that I pray this freakish sounding and somewhat foolish idea is for real... The boy just turned 18 and is kinda younger in mental age, but only because of the shelter, due to, his battle. He is a kind person and he is scarred to death!! His Dad don't know how to have "The Talk" with him. How would a person handle having to tell you child that he or she is going to die. You as a parent is suppose to take all the bad away and make the world a safe place. I don't care what some people think of this machine. I just hope it works!!! I think if the shoe was on the other foot, some Sarcastic Son of a Bitches would change their tune. Sorry about that, I just get tired of people's negativity. Some can explain "why not" all day long, and never say anything constructive. I just have a couple of questions, that I would love to have answers for. How can the brain study itself and still not know how it works? And, why can we as people fix and/or develop almost anything, but we cannot cure or maintain our own bodies? I believe that there is an answer out there for both of those questions, but if they were to be answered, the world would be quite packed to live in. It is convient for us to die, no matter what the age. Another thought: If electromagnetic engery can cause cancer cells to develop (for instance the higher number of people that live around high voltage and power plants). Then why, can't radio frequency fix it? If anyone argues or cuts up my two cents, so be it, I would expect it. Just keep a kind heart and a prayer for my friend's son. Thank You!!
Take care, and remember.
"Life is a continous mental and physical struggle for survival that undoubtabally ends up in death".
P.S. I know that my spelling and grammer suck, I spent enough time writing papers and such, that I figure if you can't get the jist of it, then the grammer and spelling really aint gonna help you much.
I don't mind the spelling and the grammar,
but dude, how about some paragraphs? :-P
Anyway, I get what you're trying to say, and I feel bad for your friend's son. But your rant about science and medicine is more emotional than rational, so I guess a reasonable debate isn't likely to happen here.
good one! I forgot to bring that into my defense.
Yea, you got me on that paragraph structure comment. Nice!! lol Correct, I don't keep up with the developments in science, as well as I once did. So, a debate would prob. be a waste of time, because my thoughts are basically emotion drivin, at least for now. Take Care, and keep your fingers crossed for 12-21-2012, this world could use a good cleansen!! haha
Hmm
I'm hoping for a pony, but a world cleansing would be okay too I guess.
Three words:
Paragraphs.
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My dead blog is dead since I hate blogging and I lead the most boring life ever.
One word
Syllables.
Zero words
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It worked for me!
Dear Most Skeptical and Self Reclaimed Chicken Brain,
I used a Beam Ray machine and it dissolved an "Atypical gland" from my prostate. That was 2 years ago, and I've felt fine ever since.
Your hearsay of it's unfounded abilities to remove cancerous cells are ill stated. Until you, yourself, face the doomed feelings associated with the possibilities of cancer presents in your own body, you should refrain from commenting on what works and what doesn't work.
As of me, I stumbled across your website, and will just as quickly forget about it and your ravings...
Consider the unjust your are doing, and have a nice life...
Can your beam ray machine
fix your grammar? :-P
It's unfortunate that you'll never be able to read this response
But it's irresponsible claims like this that increases the likelihood of such feelings of doom to patients with cancer. They do not need false hopes. Sure, the beam ray might not actually do anything to hurt you directly, but time and money wasted are irretrievable, and indirectly hurts you by allowing your condition to progress without treatment.
And while this may be anecdotal evidence (and thus not worth that much), allow me to share, in case you find yourself stumbling back here, how a family friend of ours went to such treatment and ended up having to have her toes amputated. The gangrene got so bad that they had no choice. It left her severely deconditioned because they delayed management to see if it would work. Thank God they sought real help in time, and now with rehabilitation, she's walking again. Took her 3 years and the worse time of her life to prove it wrong though.
How did you feel before the beam ray? And really, what does having an atypical gland on your prostate mean? Nada. Sure it might mean you have prostate cancer, but chances are, it doesn't mean a thing. And even if you remove those so called atypical glands when you in fact have prostate cancer you don't really do anything because they're not exactly the cancer cells, they're just indications to monitor closely whether in fact you have cancer.
Now I'm not an expert here, I could be talking lots of trash, but one thing I know for sure, what's unjust is just arbitrarily claiming something which you didn't really prove.
Good argument
Too bad the anonymous chicken isn't listening.
It is still a posibility, even though my friend lost his son.
I am the one earlier that stated about having a friend, who's son was dieing of cancer. He choose not to try the device, and decided to try the treatment. His son died last week, at the age of 18. I am not here to state that the machine would or would not have worked, but I really wished he would have tried. The person who told me about it was a succuss, and his cancer was located in the Liver. This gentleman was out of options, and took the radio treatment as a last hope. It did work. I can't think of his name at this time, but he is from Chambersburg Pa. I will try to speak with him again soon, and ask if I can put his name and number on this site. Take care all, and just please say a short prayer for my friend and his family. Thank you.
I'm sorry to hear that
Cancer is always hard on its victims and their families.
But anecdotal evidence has very little weight in science. If beam ray proponents are really confident about their treatment, they should subject it to clinical trials. Refusing to do so seems highly suspicious to me.
Beam Ray
I used a Beam Ray and here's what happened.
I have Chronic Lyme Disease. And Yes I do have a positive Blood Test - it was very positive. But at this particular time I had somehow recovered enough to be somewhat functional.
I got hits (feels like a tiny pin prick or itch) from almost every Lyme frequency. Since I never had a tick bite that I know about and have rarely left the west coast of the U.S. - how is it that I'm coming up positive for so many kinds of Lyme?
Most of it was in my face, eyes, ears, arms, legs and chest. So I ended up not feeling very well for 2 days. And by the way - the only people who are getting well for the most part from Chronic Lyme - do use some kind of Rife Machine. But one must change their diet and get rid of stress and clean up their surroundings as well.
Then we ran the parasite program. Well - I coughed a lot and I actually coughed up some strange stuff. I think if I would have had a microscope - I would have seen critters. As it was - they were gray and pink specks. After a couple of days - I felt better.
Do I think the Beam Ray will cure anything - NO. Do I think it works for parasites - YES. Do I think it will help against Lyme - YES - but will reserve my full answer until I see how well I can be cured. I have had Lyme for so long that it's possible that I have some permanent damage.
Say whatever you want about this machine. But when the day comes that you find out you have a parasite - would you rather try a drug that also might kill you - or would you give a chance to a machine that could help without causing you to be poisoned. If you ever become chronically ill and have to take a lot of medication - you will find yourself even more ill from the medications (over the long run). So don't be so quick to shoot down something that could have a use.
Well,
Lyme disease is caused by bacteria and not parasites (ticks are just carriers of the bacteria). If you do feel better after undergoing beam ray treatment, it's definitely not because the machine is effective against parasites.
So why do you feel better? I don't know, but this thing you mentioned--"one must change their diet and get rid of stress and clean up their surroundings as well"--may have helped you more than the beam ray did.
Anyway, I wish you good health, and I hope you'll get proper medical attention.
WOW
Man, what is it with you? You have heard one person after another testify either about themselves or someone they know being either cured or helped by this Beam Ray and still you put it down.
I have been reading all the different articles on your site since you brought the topic up and many of them have been telling you that it has worked for them. Just maybe your friend that tried a Beam Ray just didn't Have the right machine, There are many copies and bogus machines out there. And maybe things were gone to far with their condition. There is always a point of no return.
The story of Raymond Rife is very believable if you have any kind of a brain at all. If he did have a cure for cancer ( which was proven and documented in the 30's) Then I find it very believable that different institutions would not want this beam ray released to the public. Look at the Billions of money spent since the 1930's On Drugs alone for cancer, not to mention all the other treatments. The Cancer Society They don't want a cure for Cancer. No more than the American Government wants to stop the illegals from entering your country...It's called Big Business and employs a lot of People. You stop it and all the jobs dry up that were created.
I'm sure you heard of the gas Carbs in the 50's that would give much greater gas millage ( I think even up to 100 MPG) Got bought out by The gas company's They didn't want cars to go that many MPG, That would really cut into their profits.
Why don't you stop knocking it and listen to what a lot of these people are telling you It Works.
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I like pie.
I like pie.
Yes
Good dog.
Oh yes, the conspiracy theory angle
Yawn.
Oh, I have a question for you. Does your tinfoil hat interfere with the beam rays?
http://scienceblogs.com/start
http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2009/04/weekend_diversion_do_tin...
How do people even find this entry?
Maybe you can write a Top 10 entries of all time when we turn 10 hehe
Never heard of
Google? :-P
I'm on to you.......
Wow..........That company musta hired a hell 'o a lot of people/created bots 'ta find every website that mentioned this machine and copy and paste stories onto them......not saying that some of these comments aren't real, though.
Completely unrelated note part2
In a completely unrelated note......
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MY EYES!!! MY BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL EYES!!!!!!!!
JOYFUL Chicken (This IS how you define yourself...right?)
Dude, you seriously have to stop being so bitter. Keep up this kind of negativity and you will DEFINITELY end up with cancer yourself...ever read studies on stress?
Is bitter, closed off, rude, insensitive, lacking compassion, hopeless,or arrogant, etc. etc. really a description you wish to personify?
"BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT IN THE WORLD"-Ghandi....might benefit from reading his works....
Your mother
is full of negativity.
OH SNAP!
OH SNAP!
Yes, I'm very mature, I know
From now on, that will be my response to all people who have nothing but ad hominem arguments.
WTF is Ad Hominem????
I guess my dumb ass will have to Google that one! I would like to wish all of you a great holiday season. In other words Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. I guess that we are still allowed to wish others a Merry Christmas?
Well, as a wise man once said, "ever heard of google?"
Checked that "ad hominem" shit out, and come to assume that I am going to believe whatever he tells me from now on, because of "Inverse ad hominem". Since you knew what ad hominem meant, therefore, in my eyes you are superior to me.
Just kidding you. Seriously though, I wish you all a great Holiday with your families and cherish every moment, because in a blink of an eye they are gone.
Thanks
Happy holidays to you too.
beam ray
My mom's friend got cured of stage 4 breast cancer because of beam ray. During the time of her treatment, she refused to go through chemo, drugs, and all that stuff.
if i'm lying, may God kill my parents and my whole family.
Good for her
Unfortunately, anecdotes like this aren't very useful for scientific purposes. For instance, I know someone who died of lung cancer despite undergoing beam ray treatment. So whose anecdote is more valid, yours or mine?
That's why we need clinical trials.
Beam Ray
Who can say if it works or not. One can't help but wonder. As to clinical trials they are great to bad the government wouldn't let him be so he could provide some. I had two sisters with breast cancer, both stage IV. One died a year and a half ago after submitting to everything the medical field recommended. The other thank God (and yes I am one of those that believe he has a plan for your life) is still doing well. She did not do everything the medical field recommended (yes we questioned her decisons)and also used the the BEAM RAY. Of course I know each case is individual and life style, stress and much more play a part. However, from a family of six girls these two would have been the last that I would have expected to get cancer. No negative habits like over indulgence of alcohol, no smoking or drug habits. Healthy eaters, exercise and never over weight. I will admit genetics played a part here but both had the BRAC 1 gene. All I can say if it's me I might give it a try.
The BRCA1 mutation and family history
put you and your siblings in the high-risk group. The best thing you can do is to have regular screenings to hopefully detect cancer early and not have to go with Beam Ray Hail Mary for stage IV cancer.
Regular screening is good
Regular screening is good but it did not save my sister.
my experience with beamray
no doubt in my mind...I was facing serious infection, swelling,,for weeks, I could not eat anything without extreme pain, my cheek was swollen about an inch to inch n half.I was keeping it at bay with all kinds of herbal natural treaments,, however the beam ray is miraculous....after the first treatment, a two n half hour session.. I felt much better and was able to get some sleep. pain diminnnished quite a bit..next day another 2 hour session...improvement...third day..another 2 hour session..improvement..by the fifth treatment I was totally pain free and the swelling had disappeared and was dealing with minor sensitivity in the jaw..tooth pain totally gone swelling gone..I continued treatment for the following week...incredible experience...the friend who helped me..got his machine from a lady who had seven different types of cancer..it was reported that all cancers were eliminated within 30 days..actually its a 21 day protocal of treament..to run through he entire gaumet of frequesncies..allowing the body to respond to the exposure of the frequencies and adjust as the treatment..exposures continue...I highly recomend it if your facing a serious situation....I was and I did not want to go the the doctor or dentist...felt like this was going to be the end for me...it was that bad...I have been into herbs and natural remedies for over 20 years...no doctors..gave up on them long ago....this beam ray machine is powerful, amazing.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3807238317495330586#
check this video..and find someone who has a machine, experience it for yourself.. before you comment or bash anyone..
I state under penaly of perjury and to almighty God creator that I have nothing to do with selling these machines
So you had an infection for weeks,
and you were "keeping it at bay with all kinds of herbal natural treaments"? Why not take antibiotics? Oh right, Western medicine bad.
All your anecdotes are nice, but they're not useful evidence. I have my own anecdote too. I personally know a cancer patient who died despite undergoing daily beam ray treatment. Now what?
what must be understood..
you must have a williing party to do whatever it takes..and put as much in there favour of beating the disease..
fresh clean pure filtered water..alkaline if possible..
diet....fresh .raw food....fresh raw homemade juices..vegetarian...
lots of greens...sprouts etc..nothing animal based...
exercise...a body must move..blood must circulate...if your too sick to do this...you must have daily massage
your mind must be working with ad for you....you must see yourself as you want to be...healthy .whole...happy..complete...surrounded by love...this is a foundational approach.....I believe mind alone could heal you..problem being that most everyone is not skilled enough with mental dicipline to accomplish this...so the above would be paramount for most to be successful in beating a health crisis..The Beamray is a powerful adjuct to beating diseases. I have experienced it for myself and witnessed others positive results..
Beamray alone by itself without diet exercise etc would probably not have the same results..I have not seen many failures,people that lack the willpower to stick to the plan...should seekk kmore suuport..or what is needed is a place similar to drug rehabilitation..where you could check yourself in and be put on a strick plan outlined and it is the people that choose to work with..us and agree to follow the plan we suggest...privately...
I know you mean well,
but wow, you're so full of woo-woo.
reply to the joyful chicken
look joyful chicken face, bird beak,are you a chicken neck or you got a chicken beak for a nose..or do you just flap your chicken wings and never fly anywhere just like a chicken ..it just shows, that you chickens do not pay attention,.... You ...joyful chicken,must have a pea for a brain just like a chicken..you got nothing better to do than bash honest people who have had a good experience with this technology....what a worthless pathetic life you must have, well maybe a good life for a chicken..but for a man you fail in your research by not making an honest attempt to really discover something right under your chicken beak, that has the potential to change things on a mass scale...thats right western medicine is too new to be reliable..herbal medicine only goes back for as long as people have gone to nature for answers...the western methods of Cut, Poison, and burn......surgery,,.always a good idea when you dont have breast cancer to always have your breasts removed, just in case you might get breast cancer later in life....woo woo....toxic drugs made by man from synthetic clones of natural elements,,oh yea we can copy nature and do it better....oh yea..really smart..NOT...and burn you with radiation....oh thats modern medicine...what in the hell do you think those lasers, that medical doctors use.. are doing for people right under your chicken beak...hah??....oh thats just light..light with frequencies....dah.....oh yea.....well maybe this is just too much information for a chicken even if the chicken is joyful....cluck cluck...you understand??......why dont you let this post stand and let the people decide..just how much you really think, like a chicken...
Wow, dude,
that was really incoherent. Are you high on beam ray?
you must have the mindset
you must have the mindset that a treatment or a machine is suppose to get you well.all by itself .without the patient doing anything to help. whats a man to expect when he is being commented by someone who refers to himself-herself as a chicken .what are you afraid of chicken ? afraid of people getting well , .and then the doctors wont have anything to do to people to screw up there lives with poisonous man made drugs...guess if you had a medical degree, it would not do you much good..maybe you could get a job as a cashier at your local convenience store .
even the american cancer society knows that diet plays an important part in treatment, why else would they promote healthy diet in conjunction with cancer treatment, for you to refer to my post as woo woo...I guess that is the best vocabulary for a chicken..so what does woo woo mean in chicken speak? why do oncologist administer sodium bicarbonate in conjuction with all chemo treatments , .guess they figured out long ago, that patients died all too quickly without the sodium bicarbonate....what about the handful of medical doctors that use IV sodium bicarbonate without chemo therapy and there patients get well without chemo??...guess you havent heard about that..do they print newspapers for chickens?...now as far as the beamray.which uses frequencies through light stimulation, ..why do doctors use laser light in various forms of treatments-procedures?, what is the laser doing and what frequencies are the laser exposing the patient too, regardless of what the chicken says, think about the comparision, i watched to video posted above, excellent http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3807238317495330586#
a good primer for anyone interested in this technology to investigate. Im sorry, the chicken lost a friend who tried the beamray, You must understand that this is not a toy and it must be understood, that the protocol, the application of how to use this devise, must be adhered to by someone who knows how to use it correctly. over expose or under expose a picture what do you get the light in the picture is not balanced and that is what the beamray can do, balance the frequencies in your body to the healthy level they are suppose to be resonating at.
Yes, yes,
everything you see on Google videos is true. Now fuck off.
what do ya expect from a chicken
thats right chicken brain, .chickens do that alot, F.O. how else do we get all these chicken eggs.?
well maybe a chicken believes everything on google is true, but, men and women know better and have the ability to discern fact from fiction, we also have the ability to feel with compassion for our fellow man, and when faced with unwanted circumstances, plunge ahead, forward...and do our homework, and learn from our research what is valid and what is not. So if you listen to chickens you get what you deserve. Or if you listen to your heart, you can figure out what is true and what is make believe. So go back to your busy day of laying eggs,sitting on your eggs, pecking the dirt,scratching your hind legs, and clucking around and clucking off
Nice debate skills
How old are you? 12?
I tried to reason with you, but you have nothing but unsupported assertions and personal attacks, so I'm done with you. Anything you say from now on will be met with the immature mockery that it deserves.
If only carnifex was
If only carnifex was here.......
Yeah
I guess we're the last two people left on this site :-P Oh well.
*Stares at joyfulchicken
*Stares at joyfulchicken hungrily*
Go stare at the angry dude
Then maybe he'll go away.
its a chicken nature to be that way
Some people are afraid of almost everything, they want others to prove things to them. they look for studies, and tests backed up by so called experts, most people will wait for the news to be heard in some magazine , radio or television show to convince them that ,,,,well it must be true then....most people ....wait around for it to be common place before they will act on information..they are just ...afraid..and .skeptical, because they do not trust there own judgement, you wait for others to convince you,,instead of digging for the truth....SO for the people who listen to chickens,, go ahead and listen..and dont look into the beamray machine....cause the rest of us people who know that the Beamray machine is one of the most groundbreaking discoveries in the history of this timeline, dont think like chickens...we think with our hearts, jump in with both feet...and we are ready to make drastic changes in our lifestyles...The beamray is valid and it helps if you understand the foundation of its application,, .books ,, The Body Electric.....The Field....Vibrational Medicine....Quantum Touch.... findings support prior research that suggested most living things, including plants, release light. Since disease and illness appear to affect the strength and pattern of the glow, the discovery might lead to less-invasive ways of diagnosing patients and treating them. Mitsuo Hiramatsu, a scientist at the Central Research Laboratory at Hamamatsu Photonics in Japan, who led the research, told Discovery News that the hands are not the only parts of the body that shine light by releasing photons, or tiny, energized increments of light.Not only the hands, but also the forehead and bottoms of our feet emit photons, Hiramatsu said, and added that in terms of hands the presence of photons means that our hands are producing light all of the time. The light is invisible to the naked eye, so Hiramatsu and his team used a powerful photon counter to see it.The detector found that fingernails release 60 photons, fingers release 40 and the palms are the dimmest of all, with 20 photons measured.The findings are published in the current Journal of Photochemistry and Photobiology B: Biology.....a person has to get with the program..if you do something half way..you may or may not get yourself well...its all or nothing when your talking about a life threatening illness....you cannot just rely on some device to get you well all by itself...it has been unquestionably proven that your thoughts can make you sick and your thoughts can make you well...Why are clinics in Germany conducting research and studies proving this...laughter heals and is always included in a treatment program. The Gerson institute has proven time and time again that diet of raw food heals the incurable. A medical Doctor in Arizona Dr Gabriel Cousins MD at his clinic treats and cures Diabetes,,in 30 days..every time..when patients follow the instructions,, it works without fail...I have used the Beamray and by itself it is powerful...but not always effective...it is when you combine therapies together with the beamray..it works without fail...no question about it...incureable CURED...now a common person would want ot know if this is so..then why have they not heard about it on the major news netorks,,tabloids etc...what the common person does NOT understand is the corruption in the corporate structure...HOSPITALS are in business to make money for there stock holders....if someone comes along with a simple 2 dollars cure...it would bankrupt them over night... these simple cures are written down in the medical journals themselves....in the early 1900s it is documented that a cure for cervial cancer was discovered. by injecting a tumor with a certain strength of H2O2...the tumor disolves immediately...every time, without fail....we live in a greed based society that does not care about people..The world is control...thats CON-TROLLED.....who is being conned.....CON-stitution......television PROGRAMMING.....you are being and have been programmed by your surroundings....your teachers...media....so called bought and paid for experts....the establishment is powerful....you have been trained ......start thinking for yourself...and stop looking for others prove things to you...find out for yourself......people in general give up to easy......they have a condition that is rampant..wide spread...its called
CANTITIS I cant do this I cant do that.. I cant, I cant , I cant.....cantitis you people are never gonna be convinced because you are NOT motivated....you have nothing to lose.....maybe when your life is on the line...and you start to get serious about living and really wanting to live through an illness,, you might find out something really important about yourself..
Hmm
That's your problem right there. The heart is a muscle and cannot process information. Some of us prefer thinking with our brains.
Also, paragraphs are fun.
Cool story 'bro.
Cool story 'bro.
To the Hurt Chicken, who thinks hes joyful
Are you really that ignorant? why do you act so chicken and afraid?, you cannot mock or attack anything else I said.. so, you only mention the grammer...and a minor mistake..? ,are you claiming you cant feel with your heart and let your heart determine a choice for you...?.
are you incapable of reading between the lines????..you know exactly what I meant...!!!!!
Im sorry for you, you obviously have been hurt....you lost your friend, they tried the beamray, it didnt work for them, time will heal your heart.
Uh
Feel, yes. Determine a choice, no.
Did I mention that your punctuations are ridiculous?
Like I said above, you've proven yourself incapable of calm rational reasoning, so I won't attempt to debate with you anymore. However, I do enjoy insulting morons, so feel free to drop by anytime. Thanks.
other therapies
The first reported medical use of H2O2 was in the March 3, 1888 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association. In this article a Dr. I. N. Love described his successes in treating with hydrogen peroxide a wide variety of diseases; too many to list here. The famous English medical journal Lancet reported that H2O2 was used successfully to treat pneumonia in the epidemic following World War I. In the last 25+ years more than 7,700 articles have been published in standard medical journals. Thousands more such articles have been published in alternative health journals.
When prescription medicines came on the scene in the 1940's medical interest in hydrogen peroxide lessened. This has continued since the treatment can not be patented by the medical industry.
In the early 1960's, Baylor University Medical Center (Texas) conducted major studies in the medical uses of hydrogen peroxide. One of the things these researchers discovered was that H2O2 has an energizing effect on the heart. Specifically, they learned that myocardial ischemia, (lack of oxygen to the heart) was relieved by H2O2. The Baylor researchers found that plaque buildup in arteries was removed efficiently, and that the effect was long lasting.
Effects of Hydrogen Peroxide
Hydrogen peroxide increases the flow of blood, and therefore enhances the distribution of oxygen you breathe into your body. Further, it helps the body consume and utilize available oxygen. H2O2 itself is able to deliver small amounts of oxygen to the blood and other systems. Scientific research has uncovered that our atmosphere was 35% oxygen just 200 years ago, and that today it is a mere 19%. To make matters worse, chlorination in drinking water decreases the oxygen in water. Excessive use of antibiotics destroys the beneficial oxygen-creating bacteria of the intestinal tract. It is therefore no wonder that many persons are not getting enough oxygen to their cells. In fact, asthma, emphysema and lung disease are on the rise.
H2O2 regulates cell membranes, hormones, blood sugar, the immune system and certain body chemicals needed to operate the nervous system and the brain. It helps the body produce estrogen, thyroid and energy. It stimulates an increase in metabolic rate and enzyme systems, and causes small arteries to dilate. It has been found by some researchers to oxidize sick, weakened and dying cells while simultaneously strengthening healthy cells.
Bad Guys Don't Like It
Anaerobic microbes are unable to live in an oxygen-rich environment. Because of this hydrogen peroxide is an effective anti-microbial agent that reduces or kills viruses, bacteria, pathogens, fungi, parasites, yeast, algae, and endospores in the body. Industry has used hydrogen peroxide to purify food containers for re- use, and it has even been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration as a food additive in some foods.
Uses in Industry
Farmers use hydrogen peroxide to purify drinking water for farm animals. Water so treated also kills parasites in these animals' digestive systems. H2O2 is so powerful in killing bacteria and viruses that it is added to industrial and residential wastewater and sewage to make them safe enough to return the treated water to the natural environment.
The uses various individuals and industries have found for hydrogen peroxide are too numerous to name in this publication. But quite a few persons have chosen to experience H2O2 therapy because of their perception of the positive impact oxygen they believe it has on human organs and systems. The Hydrogen Peroxide Therapy offered at the Health and Longevity Center follows the wisdom and procedures that the best health care practitioners have determined as being optimal for providing a more oxygen-rich environment in the human body.
Now
what the fuck does this have to do with beam ray?
Beam Ray
The Centre 4 Health is pleased to be able to offer one of the greatest healing technologies ever invented - the Beam Ray, also known as Rife Technology.
In 1920 Dr Royal Raymond Rife invented a microscope that could view microbes that ordinary white light microscopes could not see. They reached magnification levels of up to 35,000 times, which had never before been reached. This microscope was the first to see the virus that begins and propagates cancer cells.
Dr Rife then developed an instrument which, in co-ordination with the microscope, administered electronic frequencies to the body that would resonate with the chemical constituents of a virus and could devitalise or obliterate dangerous microbes like bacteria, viruses and fungal entities that create disease and suffering. In 1934 he ran a study of his treatment with the result that all 16 people taking part were saved from terminal cancer. Remarkable results but then, controversially, the development of his pioneering work stopped, his notes lost and alternative methods of treatment pursued.
Today, there are people around the world who have reconstructed the Rife microscope and frequency generator. At EMS Pain Relief Sanctuary we use what we believe is the most accurate and effective Rife Technology equipment in the world.
Who can benefit?
A wide variety of conditions stemming from viruses, bacteria, phages and macrophages may be treated by the Beam Ray.
How the treatment works
With the Beam Ray frequency instrument no tissue is destroyed, no pain is felt, no noise is audible, and usually no sensation is noticed. A client may sit or lie down with the tube facing the body, the tube lights up and the machine switches off when the treatment is completed. The virus or bacteria is destroyed and the body then recovers itself naturally from the toxic effect of the virus or bacteria. Several disease forms may be treated simultaneously.
Beam Ray Machine
Beware of this page, it is controlled by a skeptic. They do not know about the technology of the Beam Ray and its effectiveness. Once a person has experienced the pain relief for themselves, that is all they need to convince them that the Beam Ray is the real deal. As for treating other conditions, those are best used in conjunction with a professional who fully understands the protocols of the use of Beam Ray. Beam Ray is not a toy, There are similar devices that do have FDA approval for pain, improved circulation, Immune response stimulated and stress reduction. Im talking about the BIOMAT. An FDA approved medical device. How does it work? Far Infrared, amethyst crystals, negative ions and seventeen layers of specially treated ceramic material. What is Far infrared? A light you cannot see in a specific band of frequency that has been scientifically proven to benefit conditions. GO to http://www.LKB.TheBioMatCompany.com
Scientific Evidence,Studies , Testimonials.
You say "skeptic"
like it's a bad thing. I'm proud to be a skeptic and not a gullible dumbass.
http://www.skeptic.com/
http://www.skeptic.com/
Dumbass?
At time Placebos work for people, when they are not aware of them being administered. Does that make them dumbasses? It is good to skeptical, but lets not completely look away from the fact, that at times some things do work when, in fact, we cannot explain why. I understand that was a general statement, and I will probabally get butchered about something. lol But, I am just a regular dumbass, that has not yet completely given up on the believe, that sometimes miracles do happen. The mind is a very powerful tool, and I find it amazing that it is an organ that studies itself, and yet can't figure out how it works. Take care all, and best wishes.
The "dumbass" comment
was directed at the angry anonymous chicken above because he wouldn't stop insulting me for not sharing his beliefs. I have no problem with you as long as you don't do that--we can disagree with each other politely.
You said that some things do work even though we can't explain why. Guess what? I agree. In fact, it might surprise you to know that mainstream medicine would agree with you. Scientists still don't understand how and why some drugs work. What they know, however, is that they do work. This is not by faith--they come to that conclusion through successful controlled clinical trials that prove that the drugs are more effective than placebos.
Beam ray has never undergone such a trial, and thus my continued skepticism.
As for the placebo effect, yes, it does help to a certain extent. Pain and discomfort are subjective experiences, so if you take a sugar pill believing that it's a powerful painkiller, it's certainly plausible that you would experience some relief--after all, the pain is all in your head. However, it wouldn't eliminate the source of the pain, e.g. a tumor or a bad infection.
I guess placebo treatment could be useful for conditions that clear up on their own (as in the case of a cold or a flu). But for cases like those, sugar pills are just as good as--and much cheaper than--beam ray machines.
Just a brief thought
I do not fully understand what is involved in getting something to clinical trial, or who needs to fund it etc... I am just wandering if there has been any underlieing reasons for no such studies. Not to seem like a complete conspirsory theorist, I do not trust much at face value. As to illustrate, the seat belt law in many states, as compared to the helment law. I am soo sick of seeing the signs for "Buckle up" it saves lives. When in the same state, a person is allow to not wear a helment while riding a motor cycle. Too look at the true meaning for these contridicting laws, is solely, cost. If you buckle up, yes you are more likly to not sastain serious injury, which will save the cost of health care. Now, in turn, if you are to crash on a motor cycle without a helment, you are more likly to die, which is also a health care savings. So, maybe the reason for no formal clinical trials on the beam ray machine is also related to the "all mighty" dollar. If infact, the beam ray machine was proven to work, what impact would it have on the Health Care System? Just a thought! :)
P.S. Yes, I already have heard that my paragraphs, spelling, grammer, etc... sucks, but I am not concerned on being graded on this, I just want to get to the point. As for the insults that some people through around, I agree, if one cannot treat another with respect, even if he or she does not agree, that person really is being an ass!! In general, there is alot less respect in society today, and alot more "entitled to" mentality and just general rudeness. I have a thought to through out there, which may help inprove that. I would like to see the govt approve, that for 48 hours out of the year, all laws would be waived. I bet you would see the respect level increase and just more kindness in general, during the other 363 days of the year. ;) I know that I already have a couple people in mind, that are a perfect waste of O2!! jk Not really! Megan's web page, would be a good place to start!
Well,
it's true that an FDA-approved clinical trial would cost a lot of money, but beam ray proponents aren't exactly poor considering how cheap the parts of a beam ray machine are (around $20) and how high the retail price can be.
Even if beam ray proponents can't do a full government-sanctioned clinical trial, I would have more respect for them if they at least make an effort to prove their claims scientifically. But so far, they've presented nothing but anecdotes, which have very little value as statistical evidence.
comment
Twenty dollars in part huh?you are sadly mistaken, if its so cheap build em yourself. Your a bit on the green side; you do not understand and may never understand corporate america. Hospitals are in business to make money. They have an obligation to their stock holders, the hospital administrator is in charge of what is allowed into that hospital for treatment protocols. If that hospital administrator deviates from those protocols, he/she will be replaced. As some of the comments above indicate, the beam ray machines effectiveness depends on the skill and background of the operator. Do you think for one minute that corporate america wants to shoot itself in the foot and commit corporate suicide. Hundreds of cures are documented in the older medical journals. They are not used today because of this vary reason, corporate suicide.
Well, since I'm not American,
your corporate America conspiracy theory isn't really relevant to me. I need to see scientific evidence, whether from America or from somewhere else.
response
I see, you believe that hospitals are not in a business to make money..that hospitals are not incorporated, and you also believe that the news media is there to inform little ole you of the unbiased truth...you lead me to believe that you are a hopeless, ignorant child that must be spoon fed information because you have no skills in doing your own research.. you need others to convince you of obvious truths.. do you not understand coporations or there purpose? wheres the conspiracy in that. Your telling me that you do not understand that drug companies,everyday try to copy natural substances found in nature and synthesize them so they can have a patent on them and have total control over there synthetic invention, for the sole purpose of making outrageous amounts of money and I suppose you believe that those unnatural substances are ok to put in your body and you must also believe that those man made chemical, synthetic substances must be safe because the FDA told you so ,you lead me to believe that your mind is still in the child state of development. why? because what ever I show you, that information is still the opinions of some panel of so called self proclaimed experts. It is up to you to discern truth from not so true and all shades of gray in between...do you think that everything is either true or untrue. Your posts,lead me to believe that there is not much hope for you to cure your ignorance. You can do your own research. Dont you know how to use google? Why are you acting childish. You want other people to lay it out for you and give you something that cannot possible be rebutted? You do nothing for yourself. Im done here with you. I have much better things to do than argue with a child.
Way to miss my point
I'm not an American, and I don't live in America, so your conspiracy theory about corporate America is irrelevant to me. Why can't you understand that? Learn to read. Jesus.
Also, learn to use paragraphs.
What we have here folks is
What we have here folks is someone who is more concerned more about how you write as oppose to what you write. Ignorance is bliss. You must be a paid spinner. You dont know what a corporation is? This man or woman does not live in america. So what does that tell you? Maybe this person is a terrorist. I think this person is bordering on moronic nonsense. Read the joyful chicken posts. You will understand the immaturity. You sound like an english major from Sudan. Oh my, why are you so obsessed with paragraph form? Someone who does not live in america, is not an american is more concerned with paragraphs and sentence structure..WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ABOUT THIS PERSON..????? They do not respond to something that is beyond there comprehension. Exactly you need a reading coarse. You failed to respond moron. Why do you waste your time here? Who is paying you? Why are you so concerned about the beam ray devise? You obviously had a bad experience with beam ray and you have a bone to pick with them. Maybe you should contact them directly, why waste your time here? Are you trying to discourage people one at a time? What a waste. so long chicken ID.
Let me get this straight
I'm not an American, so I must be a terrorist? And I don't share your opinion, so I must be a paid hack?
Jesus, kid, you need a lesson in basic logic.
to the hopeless joyful chicken person
LOGIC.??........you use words you DO NOT KNOW THE MEANING OF....YOU HAVE NO LOGIC IN YOUR RESPONSES.!!..so now your a jesus kid??.. is that suppose to give you some kind of legitimacy now?
Heh, this is funny
So James, you're "Sherry" now? Did the beam ray machine give you a sex change operation? Or do you have multiple personality disorder?
Question
To the Joyfulchicken.
May I ask in what part of the world, in which, you live? Just courious, because much of the time, a person's demographics, will effect his or her believes. But, hell, you already know that. I was not being a smart ass, but rather stating that you do seem like a fairly intelligent individual. I can see that the debate on the Beam-Ray has degenerated to the basic school yard banter, that I remember from Middle School. What is a suprise to me is that you, Mr. Joyfulchicken, has allowed yourself to become part of the dis-appointing childishness. Tweaking on sentence structure, name calling, personal attacks on character, etc... WHAT THE FUCK? As for the clinical trials that you keep speaking of, maybe some time it is better to just listen to people about how, at times, it has worked for them. I know what might be stated in a rebuttle to that. It may go as such: "How can you base proof on the word of "everyday-Normal people"? Well, I would rather do that, then place my trust in a Government (or any business) funded clinical trail, because I really don't have much faith in either of them to do good for man-kind, or prove that a device may do the same. Such a finding is not good business in the big picture of the economical impact, that such a simple cure would cause. It has been disapointally evident, that in this Great Country of America, in which I Love, that cost of human life and well-being for many, has become over shadowed by the importance of Profit and Control of Few.
I am not sure if this has been meantioned before, but why can it be that; the use or cell phones, living under high-voltage line, over exporser to x-rays, etc..., cause cancer. All of which produce some type of ray, pulse, field, light etc..., as such does the Beam-Ray. So, basic common sense would lead me to believe, with-out a clinical trial, that maybe if waves, rays and such can cause cancer, may infact they man be able to get rid of it as well.
As the "Accomes Razor", statement says; most of the time the correct soulution, is the simplest one. Just a thought.;)
By the way, My spelling, grammer, puncuation, sentance structure, etc..., still sucks, so any opinions on the matters will be comical and just basically pathetic! Just get to the point at hand! :)
Take care All!!
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Please note
that I've been quite polite to you. I disagree with your logic, but I never called you names or anything.
If you read through the comments above again, you'd see that James/Sherry started the personal attacks first, and once he did that, I saw no point in trying to reason with him anymore. That's the way I roll: if you attack me, I'll attack you. Also, the childish nature of my responses to him shouldn't surprise you. I use the name Joyfulchicken on a site called Chicken Mafia--of course I'm immature :-P
Anyway, I want to address your point about trusting "the word of everyday-normal people." Although I acknowledge the value of personal experience, I can't accept that as valid scientific evidence. Please read the ff. articles if you want to know why.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
In short, I may not necessarily trust governments and drug companies, but I do trust statistics, logic, and the scientific method.
By the way, I live in Southeast Asia, where "alternative medicine" is actually quite mainstream. As life expectancy statistics show, it's not really as effective as the supposedly evil Western medicine.
Valid Observations
It seems that the chicken is attempting to label and stereotype people for there opinions and grammer usage.
The Chicken lives outside of the U.S. and the chicken seems to trust government studies.
All of those observations should point out to the casual reader that this chicken person, who hosts this blog, is biased, lacks experience, and simply has a bone to pick with the subject matter of this blog.
I have a close friend that I have known for over two decades, come to grips with the shocking information of being told ,you have cancer. This close friend , who shall remain nameless, has a burning desire to live, primarily to not miss out on watching his family grow up. He had witnessed numerous people go through traditional cancer treatments. Those friends and aquaintances all perished, he was not going to go through the same gauntlet of treatment they had predispositioned themselves to. Having the burning desire to live, gives a person an insatiable drive to leave no stone unturned. That is how he found his survival, the beam-ray machine was a big part of that survival. I witnessed his condition go from bad to better to normal. within a month of treatments of hours a day his change was quite dramatic. That was four years ago. For those who may stumble across my message, don't hesitate to use beam-ray. Do you own research into the people who offer it. You are responsible for your own health. Start taking that responsibility seriously.
Frankly , chicken person, I do not care what you think about my post and Im quite sure you'll not be able resist bashing it in some immature fashion as you have demonstrated above. If your waiting for government studies on this topic, your wasting your time and you do not understand big business and how it is connected. Peace and blessings to you all, Shalom and prosper.
Who the hell are you?
"George"? I don't see any other comments by a "George" above. I don't even know which comments are yours. Jesus, dude, pick a name and stick to it.
And where the fuck did I say that I'm waiting for government studies? You're putting words in my mouth. People can do science without the government, and I never implied otherwise. Learn to read or fuck off.
to the immature chicken
I have made no comments until the one above. I have not been on this blog before , I simply read the comments posted and now your bashing me. Thats what I get for posting on a blog with an immature person with a chicken fetish who lacks hosting skills. Your problem is your looking to others to substantiate your perceptions of what you deem to be valid evidence..when you should be doing your own research studies if your so concerned about beam-ray. You obviously do not care about the truth when it concerns lives and a beneficial application of frequency stimulation..all you want to do is bash, belittle and base your opinions on what others have done. What research have you done. How much beam-ray treatment have you personally had? How many people do you know that tried beam-ray and it failed on them? Why dont you contact the people at beam-ray. take a trip over there and cure your skepticism. I know a man who has helped dozens of people overcome there problems using the beam-ray. I guess there is no amount of talk that could possibly convince you of anything worth while. You were probably born a skeptic. Maybe its in your genes. I doubt that the beam-ray could help with that.unless you had cancer or something to that effect and the only treatment available was the beam-ray. A hopelesss situation and only one treatment available, may very well be the only way to convince someone as skeptical as you.
If you had
read through my other comments above, you'd know that:
1) I personally know someone who choose to undergo beam ray treatment instead of chemotherapy, and now he's dead. I thought beam ray is supposed to be 100% effective?
2) Yes, I'm a skeptic, and I'm proud of it. You say "skeptic" like it's a bad thing. It's not. I prefer to be a skeptic than a gullible fool.
good to hear
Hey George, It is good to know that with believe and a strong will to live,can aid in the survival of your friend. The mind is a very powerful tool, and can really make of break a person's health. I am not saying that the beam-ray, did not play a part, but yet I have not personally tried it for anything. It is supposed to work on much more then just cancer, and I have been thinking about seeing if there is any substance to the claims.
A question for the Joyful Chicken.
Do you believe in a God? I kinda think that you will answer "no", because you seem sharp enough to see where the qusestion is leading. If you choose not to answer, in which, I can also understand. Just ask yourself, if you do believe in God, (where is the proof?) There are many "gullible fools" in the world (myself incluced) that do belive in God (without proof or any formal studies), which may make it easier for me to believe in some things, just because they may work from time to time. :) I don't think that you will ever see a formal study of any substance, because if the beam-ray was, in-fact, proven to actually work, it would cause dramatic ripple to modern medicine. I just find it kind of concerning, that a simple machine, that has been around for so long, and has so many, stated, healing possibilities, has not been formally studied. I just find it odd, that someone or some group, has not tried to credit or dis-credit the beam-ray. Maybe there already has been a study, and the results were not what the, "big bussiness" of Medicine, wanted to allow to be published. Just a thought!
Take care.
You guessed right
I don't believe in god. But I would reconsider if presented with valid evidence. That's also my stand on alternative medicine.
A formal study on beam ray would be easily doable, and there's really no good excuse for not doing it. So that's my challenge to beam ray proponents like George and James/Sherry: stop complaining about suppression by big government and big business and big bad immature chicken--go ahead and conduct scientific studies and randomized trials yourself (again, anecdote is NOT evidence). If you get statistically valid positive results, I promise to listen with an open mind.
IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN A
IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN A SUPREME INTELLIGENCE, YOU ARE REALLY MISSING THE BOAT.YOU ARE TRULY A CHILD IN THE SEA OF ENERGY..AS FOR THE BEAM-RAY. I DONT NEED ANY STUDIES TO CONVINCE YOU...IM ALREADY CONVINCED..YOUR THE ONE WHO NEEDS THE STUDIES. YOUR GONNA HAVE TO DO THEM YOURSELF..YOU ARE THE SKEPTIC...I KNOW IT WORKS AND I DO NOT NEED TO CONVINCE YOU OR ANYONE ELSE OF THAT..YOU ARE THE ONE THAT NEEDS CONVINCING..I DO NOT SELL THESE MACHINES. I HAVE ACCESS TO ONE WHEN I WANT TO USE IT..YOU ARE REALLY STRANGE TO THINK THAT IM THE ONE WHO NEED TO DO THESE STUDIES. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO HAS A PROBLEM WITH IT..I DONT..ITS ALL ON YOUR SHOLDERS, ITS ALL UP TO YOU. HOW DO YOU FIGURE THAT ITS MY CONCERN TO CONVINCE YOU? ONE EASY WAY AS I STATED IS TO EXPERIENCE IT FOR YOURSELF..PROBLEM SOLVED
Why you and not me?
Because you're the one who's making the claim that beam ray works. Whoever makes the claim has to provide the proof. Isn't that fair? If you don't have proof, then don't make the claim.
Also, it's funny how you posted in all caps. Who's the immature one now? Go learn some etiquette and logic.
not quite the beam-ray
It was not quite the beam-ray's healing powers, but last night when I was sleeping, I was awaken when an itching sensation developed on my left ass cheek. I scratched it, and I will be damned, that healed me, and I was able to go back to sleep. I really don't care if any one believes me or not, I am sure that it worked. I have not seen any scientific studies or randomized trails done, concerning the amazing healing potential of scratching ones ass. I don't care if the skeptics cut me up for stating what I know worked for me, I am, and always will be a believer.
I don't mean to trivialize the topic at hand, but I have had some personal experience with people that would say that "it can't be doing that to you", just because some fucking nit-wit, has not proven that it could be doing that to me. What I am talking about is the use of perscription pain-killers, and the effects that they have on the human body. I have been taking them for about 5 years, and decided to quit them on my own 4 months ago. The problem that I was having, was that they were making my heart pause at times. The experts call this PVC (pulmenary venticular contractions), and all my doctors (4) total, told me that there was no proof that the medication was effecting my heart. The reason for this statement from the doctors, was because I told them that I felt that it was the meds affecting me this way. I was told again and again, that there was not connection between heart trouble, and the use of pain medication. Well, I stopped taking it for a while, and the heart seemed to be fine, so I started up again, and back came the problems. So, basically I would like to say "Fuck them", and their believes that there is no connection between heart damage, and the use of pain meds. Well, I am at least sure, that, with-out any clinical studies, the pain meds were killing my heart. I just hope that I caught it before alot of damage was caused. It is kind of funny though, that up till about a year ago, my heart was in perfect health, and all of a sudden developed a bad Mitrial Valvue. There was no prior family history, and really no change in my life, exept for the pain Meds, that could have caused it. I just wander, if there will ever be a connection between Heart Disease and Pain Medication.
Take care all, and I am sorry to go off on a tangant, but sometimes just because there is not any studies done on a topic at hand, does not mean that it may not work.
That's quite a tangent
I never said that you need formal studies for everything. If something works for you, that's great. As long as you don't attack me for not sharing your views, I have no issues with whatever you want to believe.
That's my biggest problem with beam ray proponents and other alternative medicine advocates: they make far-reaching claims (e.g. they can cure all types of cancer) without providing evidence to back them up, and when I ask for evidence, they get all mad and call me names or accuse me of being part of the conspiracy.
Anyway, I suggest you read the ff. articles that I previously recommended before continuing the discussion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
yea it was. :)
I understand that the example was a bit extreme, and for that I apoligize. It is just sometimes you do come accross as perching yourself above some of the people that visit your site. I don't believe that is your intention, but it may come across that way. I agree with you that the Beam-Ray should be studied, but yet if some believe that it will work, and has worked for them or someone they know, that is a good thing. At times, all people need is a glim of hope, and the healing will be taken care of from with-in.
I am not certain of your age or profession, but you seem like you are pretty smart. It is just you seem like you are a bit young, and still are set in the beliefs of relying on studies and proofs, to base your belief on a topic. I am only 40, but I have lost hope in the proofs of others, since about the age of 25. I do understand that evidence aids in a person's decision, but yet one can do his or her own information gathering and come up with an educated opinion on a topic at hand.
In short and to repeat, I do agree that the Beam-Ray should be formally studied, a few times, with a variety of demographic specific studies. To assure that the effect of Race, and nation of origin, does not play a part. But yet, I ask, why has no formal studies been done, or have they been suppressed? Just another thought, Is is even ethical to subject humans to the testing of the Beam-Ray? I bet one would be possibally setting his or herself up for alot of negative publicity and possible Law suits. So, I doubt if, infact, one will ever see the Beam-Ray formally tested.
Take care.
I think you're being unfair
I perch myself above the visitors? Well, maybe. But they also keep calling me naive and immature. How is that not at least as bad? It's best to accept that both sides have neither love nor respect for the other, and just focus on the debate at hand and not the petty personal stuff. Just because someone is arrogant or smug doesn't mean that he's wrong.
Back to the topic....
You cannot suppress something that doesn't exist. In the age of the Internet, it's practically impossible to censor or suppress any information. So the suppression conspiracy theories, while plausible in decades past, are now considered laughable.
I get annoyed when I hear alternative medicine advocates complaining about their point of view being suppressed. Who exactly is suppressing them? When they post something on the Net, do big government and big pharma hunt them down and delete their blogs and comments? I don't think so.
Information about beam ray is always just a Google search away. The only reason why there are no scientific studies on it is because beam ray proponents don't do them. There's no suppression here. In fact, if they can show me a properly conducted scientific study about beam ray, I'll gladly publish it here. How's that?
Unfortunately, all you can find are "I have a friend who" anecdotes and uncorroborated legends about Royal Rife, which are hardly convincing to me. If they're good enough for you, then great, you're free to believe whatever you want to believe. I think you're wrong, and you think I'm wrong--and that's okay.
not wrong, just different thought processes
I aint quite sure if there is a truely right or wrong when it comes to most topics at hand, because if it only works one time, it is worth-while. Esp. if it is a loved one that comes out alive. But, yes I do agree, that formal studies, aid in the choices we make when we consider ourselves the norm. But sometimes the outlyers that are not included in the findings of a study, are the ones who really suffer.
By the way, I don't believe that I ever personally attacked or called you any names. I do think that it is a real Fucking shame, when people stoop to that level. Plus, it destroys any credibility that they try to have. Personally, when name calling starts, I consider the source to be desperate, childish, and basically ill-informed. After-which, I pretty much don't find anything they say to be of substinance.
One study that I would like for you to research is the correlation between, perscription pain meds, and death (due to lung failure and/or heart failure). I am sorry to bring up a topic not related to the Beam-Ray, but I believe, due to personal experience, that the medical field is in for a big ripple, when and if some formal studies are done on this topic.
Take care,
P.S. The internet ain't to big for big Govt to screen. I speak to this, from personal experience too. :)
Deaths due to prescription painkiller
are actually quite common, but they're most often due to overdose.
Which prescription painkiller were you taking? That question is important because different drugs have different mechanisms and side effects. If it's Darvon (propoxyphene), you might want to look at this article I found on Google. Here's a snippet (emphasis mine):
I think your doctor was wrong for dismissing your concerns. At the very least, he could have prescribed a different painkiller.
If you want a safer alternative for pain management, you might want to consider marijuana if your state allows it for medical use. It works, and it's fun.
Okay, that's about all I can say on the topic. I'm not a doctor after all (not to mention that this is off-topic). If you need more information, Google is your friend. You might also want to report the adverse effects you experienced directly to the FDA. Evil government or not, drugs do get recalled from time to time when enough people complain.
thanks
It was a dose of perc. and/or viciton, 320 to 650 miligrams three times a day. During the last year, they were combined with Xanax, which is when I noticed the most symptoms. Marijuana is not leagal in my state, plus I work for the Govt, so that would not be an option. :( I have been doing some Googling, but there is not alot of studies on the topic, yet.
Thanks Friend, I will keep the arguing on the Beam-Ray from now on. :)
Take care.
Say that to the hundreds of
Say that to the hundreds of patients that we've actually treated with the Rife Machine - for free! -
They are all well now, with normal cancer markers. These people were terminal - stage 4b and some are in stage 2 & 3.
When you get sick of cancer, we'll see what you have to say about it..
Uh, who are you?
It's hard to take you at your word since you didn't even care enough to leave a name. How can I possibly know that you're not bullshitting me, anonymous strange on the Internet?
That's my frustration with you alternative medicine advocates. You make fantastic claims without providing any shred of evidence, and then you get offended when people don't believe you. Jesus.
no names please
You simply have no idea about the abuse federal agents put upon people in the natural field when it infringes on the drug companies ability to make a huge profit, ILL give you one example,the Hoxsey remedy, Hoxsey sued the FDA head, Fishbine and won. go read about it, if you have a hard time wondering why people would rather not give out there name, and you are the one questioning why not..
What lawsuit?
Link?
Or is it also dangerous to cite sources?
i question the persona of moderator chicken
I have read the postings above and have come to a conclusion. What is a trouble maker with a limited mind of there own to truly think for themselves, breathing skepticism, tainted with immaturity? There are several valid points made and I have to really question the motivation behind the moderator of this page. Smells like someone thinks they are a bit better than others, expecting others to prove things to them. I see valid points being made with a skeptical moderator expecting proof. It is my strong belief that the moderator has no desire to find truth for themselves. To me, joyful/chicken, your an agitating instigator.As others have stated, you possess A child/like mind wanting answers with no idea how to find answers for yourself. Somehow you believe that if someone tells a story of success then its up to that party to provide proof to you,to satisfy your laziness and your lack of desire to find answers for yourself. Now you can spin my observation, just to make yourself feel superior. You are what is referred to as a proverbial pain in the you know what. So, go ahead and make yourself feel better now. I would wager a large sum that you will not be able to resist commenting my post.
I have no comment on your post
Please send me the large sum of money you promised :-P Thanks.
you lost it dumm ass...you
you lost it dumm ass...you posted..you replied...anything posted from you to my post constitutes a breech....I would of won ...
Wow
That's very mature of you :-P
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